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Sasquatch Park Encounter???

During the morning of January 28, 2017, I stopped by Rocko’s, a cafe in Mission BC, to meet and talk with a group of researchers who were heading out to Harrison Lake to do some looking around with a couple of visiting researchers from the USA.

John Kirk, president of the BCSCC, his wife Winona, a First Nation woman from Alberta, who has a good deal of tracking knowledge under her belt, Kennith Joholske , a visiting researcher from the state of Maryland, US and researcher David Winter from Washington State, US.

The group was planning to head up the Harrison Lake east shore Forest service road, waiting by the entrance gates of Sasquatch Provincial Park for researcher, Jason Zakrission, to catch up with them before proceeding.  But for now over Rocko’s bad coffee and breakfast  we spent a couple of hours comparing notes and theory concerning my favoured subject, the Sasquatch.  I did think about joining the group but they already seemed to have a full car load. I wish I had.

Later the following  night, I was contacted by John Kirk via email concerning something strange the group had encountered while waiting for Jason Zakrission at the Park gates:

Thomas,

Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.

I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.

I got a pretty good look at this thing from the thighs up and it was very broad. I did not know but Winona was saving at it, but in response to this, the creature raised it’s arm to chest height. It did not save, just raised it’s left arm.

It continue to rock from side to side as all four of us looked at it. After a while it stepped back and was gone. Two minutes later Jason arrived and was stunned by what we told him we had seen. Because he had good boots, he was able to climb up to just below the are where the figure had stood, but could go no further.

We kept observing the hillside for a further period and then made whooping sounds. In response we got two high pitched whoops back from just to the right and to the west of where the thing has been standing.

A few minutes later Jason made a loud roaring sound and there was a reply to the northeast of us. It was very different from the first two vocalizations and was very loud even though distant. We made more vocalizations, but there were no further responses.

With the onset of darkness we decided to go up the east side of Harrison Lake. After a few hours using a Flir we saw nothing further and Jason suggested returning to where we earlier by the gates.

We brought a bunch of thermal images and after a few minutes we got a hit where we had seen the figure earlier. It was very hot and we knew it was a living organism and appeared to have a pointed head. One of our people moved toward the slope and the hot spot stood up and ran up hill from right to left and we could see it was a Sasquatch. It was tall, but height estimates are impossible. It had two legs and it’s arms swung pretty far. It moved very fast, but you could see it bobbing up and down as it tanto the left and then uphill to the right. It went behind tree and was lost.

Not long after we got a hit of something moving low to the ground. Again we could see the pointed head and have video of this segment. The earlier running segment was not captured as Graz’s camera experienced battery failure. Very disappointing.

We also saw another strong heat signal and recorded it, but we believe this to have been a big rodent.

Nothing further was seen and we left the gates about 9.30 p.m.

We hope to return there next Saturday. I am getting some decent hiking boots so that I can climb up the hill to look at the are where it stood and height comparisons. If you want to join us that would be great. If not Winona would like to pop by you r place afterwards to visit and talk. Let me know if you’ll be available and interested.

JK

I did interview John, Winona, and Kennith the following evening.  David Winter had left for home in Washington and I would contact him a few days later.  I did also talk with Jason Zakrisson, the 5th member of the group who was to meet with them at the park gates.  And I have to say there were a few discrepancies in some the the accounts of what happened, and what was seen, and what was seen by whom and when? However nothing serious enough to make me believe that any of these witnesses, some of which have been colleagues and friends for years, were trying to pull off some sort of hoax of any kind. Far from it.

As you have read in John Kirk’s e-mail, at approx 4 pm two of the group, Kennith and Winona had expressed to John that they felt like they were being watched. Not uncommon. In fact, I think it is safe to say that anytime in the British Columbia wilderness you are always being watched by something. John then started scanning the hillside beside the road to the south east. It was then he spotted a figure which seemed about 150 to 200 hundred feet away, standing still, shifting a bit from side to side. John points this out to the others, both Winona and Kennith state they saw the figure, too. David Winter, who was getting a camera and a Flir device from his vehicle, was the last to look but, according to what I was told, did not see it.

Jason arrived at this time and was taken aback a bit by this excited group pointing up the hill and saying they may just have seen a Sasquatch? Now, according to the group, Jason just missed this encounter by a couple of minutes, arriving just as they lost site of the figure.  But Jason told me he did indeed see a figure up there, that looked to him like the head and shoulders of something or someone?  No fine detail visible to his eye but a figure of some kind moving up there.  After a few minutes, Jason went up the hillside a bit to look around while the others watched from below, keeping there eyes pealed. But, according to what they told me, they did not see it again at this time.

Then, for reasons which really puzzle me, the group decided to leave the area and proceed with their original plan to proceed up the lake for a bit to look around.  Perhaps this was done for the visiting American researchers who had never been here before?  But I have to say, if I had been with them I would have waved and said,” pick me up on the way back because there is no way in hell I am going to leave this area now!!”

After some time up the lake, Jason suggested they return to the Park gates location in order to use the Flir device, as it was now dark.  Once back, they employed the Flir device and did indeed pick up movement on the hillside.  David Winter did try to use the Flir with his video camera but battery problems caused the video camera to die after only a few minutes.  Though during this time, I was told he did pick up an image of something moving up the hill.  David did send me a copy of the footage and there is indeed something moving through the tress but in my opinion, it could really be anything.

Here below is what David wrote when he sent me the footage:

Sorry I missed the call, Tom.  We’ll have to do this by email for now, as I don’t have international calling on my phone plan.  Give me a list of questions, and I’ll go from there.  For now, I’ll attach a copy of the “squatch” I caught on thermal.  It’s at a distance, after it ran away up the hill, when my recording camera died.  The battery was replaced as quick as possible, but we didn’t see this tiny catch until I got home and went over the video with John, Winona and Kenny on Skype.  It’s not much, but we believe it to be what made the tracks Winona found.  Get back to me. 

Graz aka David Winter. 

I have since been told that there was a second Flir image taken that night which at the time of writing this article, I have still not seen.

The footage I have seen is open to interpretation, in my opinion.  It could be anything; in fact, I think it is much closer to the road than whatever or whoever was seen earlier at 4 pm.

I went out with three of the witnesses to the location four days later, February 1st 2017, a Wednesday.  We did some extensive searching of the area. John and I viewing from the witness vantage point with Winona standing where the subject was.  She had to wave her arms in the air before I spotted her at all.  I was amazed that any of the group saw anything. But I did notice at 4pm that at this time of year, the sunlight makes the right side of the tress illuminate to the eye while the left side of those same trees cast a dark shadow.
If the subject was caught in this light while moving from side to side, in my opinion, it would stand out to any person watching from the roadside below.

After we made these vantage point comparisons, myself and John Kirk went uphill to join Winona and Kennith on the spot the subject had been.  Winona now put her hunting and tracking skills to work, and not far from the spot were the subject had been, she noticed the trail where something had walked away from the spot in question.

We watched as she tracked the the subject and pointed out what she thought were tracks. She was right, as far as i could tell, but they were nothing distinct, as far as i could see.  I then asked her to explain her history and knowledge of tracking for the camera, which she did.  After I asked to point out which direction she thought the subject was heading, she pointed downhill and it was there I came across the first cast-able print.

Best of the line, March 1st, 2017 T.Steenburg

In my opinion, there was now evidence that at least something or someone was up on the hillside.  However, did it mean that these possible prints were created on the day and time in question? No. Then again, it is possible that they were.  The print in the above photo as well as the one before it were cast.  The step between the two was 6 feet 7 inches; the length of the track was 15 inches.  Not the best conditions to cast footprints but we decided to do so any way.

After casting
J.Kirk and T.Steenburg measure step length. 6 feet, 7 inches

Casts recovered. T.Steenburg Photo

A few days after this onsite investigation, the worst snow fall of the winter occurred and a return trip later with other researchers found that the tracks did not survive the snowfall.

After having interviewed the witnesses and done follow up investigation at the site, I have come to the following conclusions:

1. This was not a hoax, therefore the witnesses are NOT lying.

2. There were discrepancies in some of the witness testimony when compared with each other.  However, this is more due to each individual circumstances at the moment rather than any attempt at deception.

3.  What was encountered at 4 pm is the crunch of this case rather than what happened later, at 9 pm (this could change after I see the second piece of footage).

It has been suggested that perhaps a bear standing up was seen?  Based on the description, I can see how this can be possible, but we found no bear tracks afterwards.

In my opinion, the five witnesses either encountered a Sasquatch on January 28th, 2017 or they saw a man up on  the hillside.   It was definitely one or the other.

Thomas Steenburg

UPDATE: March 15th, 2017.

The following was posted by researcher David Winter on his face book page, after he had read this post concerning the incident of Jan 28th, 2017

David Winter Now that I’ve read the account on Tom’s website, I’ll have to remind the rest of the fellow experiencers of this situation, about something left out of the account on Tom’s website. Here is what is stated, then I’ll do a recount. “Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.

I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.” Now, there is something left out. We were milling around next to the gate, waiting for Jason. We heard a couple of growls, and got perked. I went to my Jeep and got out my “blobsquatch eliminator” infrared camera, and started playing with it. As I scanned from the gate, to my right, I saw a black blob between the trees. I yelled “BLACK BLOB” and got everyone’s attention, as I attemped to focus my infrared camera on it. Because of the very low light, and less sun for the infrared, I just couldn’t focus on the blob in the distance. The trees between me and the blob, caused even more problems as the camera wouldn’t let them go in the auto focus mode. I fought with that, going into manual mode, and the blob still wouldn’t focus. As I’m concentrating on this battle, John, Winona and Kenny are watching the blob as stated above. This is my account.

It appears that David actually did see the subject during the 4 pm encounter.
Thomas Steenburg

Steenburg File #10179

2012/02/00 – Mission, Hatzic Lake area.  Very Tall, Shaggy, Dark Brown Hair:

A lady with two friends on a equestrian farm in the Hatzic Lake area sighted what they believe was a Sasquatch at about 7:00 am. in mid-February 2012.  The lady informed Gene Baade of the group’s experience and he sent the information to Thomas Steenburg.  Here is what was provided (edited for clarity):

It was just getting light out and you could tell it was going to be a beautiful day.  He [the Sasquatch] was about 100 feet, maybe 150 feet from us.  He came out of the forest right along the tree line and began taking huge steps along the tree line heading west.  We all watched him make his away across the field; he made about 200 feet in 30 seconds—he was extremely quick [See Note 1].  He was about 11 feet tall and had shag dark
brownish hair all over him; almost like he was wearing a huge shag jacket. His arms were what really got me—they were so long. He looked like big hairy ape. He was behaving like he was in a hurry and didn’t want to be seen. As he popped out of the tree line he scanned the area and then headed west in a hurry; not running though—just a quick walk. The horses didn’t seem to notice or care, which I thought was weird; maybe if they [sasquatch] had been visiting the horses they were already used to it [See Note 2]. There were three of us who saw the same thing; there was no explaining it or denying it.


Note 1: The speed equals 6.67 feet per second. An average person walks at 4.6 feet per second, so the speed, while quick, was not extremely so (the time was likely much less or the distance much greater).

Note 2: The information about the horses not caring was indeed odd; however, Almasty allegedly have an affinity for horses, which don’t mind their presence at all.

Source: Thomas Steenburg Sasquatch Incidents file, No. 10179.

Steenburg File #10176

2012/02/04 – Hope area: Two-legged Gigantic Figure: Two brothers
used an unattended (off-hours) vehicle scale in the Hope area and
saw a very large man-like figure nearby on February 4, 2012 at
10:30 pm.  As they drove away from the scale the brother who was
driving saw the figure in the car rear view mirror and remarked,
“That’s one big fella,” and slowed down.  The other brother turned
around and also saw the oddity; later referred to as “gigantic.”  It was
slightly hunched over and walking on two legs. They estimated it
was about 50 feet from the scale and felt that it was waiting for them to
leave.  Both brothers are very tall (6 feet, 5 inches, and 6 feet, 3 inches)
and they believe the entity was much taller than they were. They
watched and the figure crossed the highway and disappeared into the
bush on the other side.
Thomas Steenburg and Bill Miller went to the location and
investigated the incident, but did not find any footprints, despite
snow on the ground directly at the back of the scale; however, the
oddity may not have come from that direction. They were able to see
video taken by the scale security camera, but it was pointing in
another direction at the time the figure was seen.

Vehicle scale near Hope, BC

Source: Thomas Steenburg Sasquatch Incidents file, No. 10176.

Steenburg File #10177

2009/SU/00 – Harrison Lake Area. Monkey Just Over Four Feet
Tall: A resident who worked as a gate security man at Harrison Lake
had a strange sighting at about 4:00 p.m. in the summer of 2009. On
his way to work, he saw what he described as a monkey about 4 feet
tall cross the road in front of his car. He exclaimed to himself, “A
monkey! Some fool has let loose a damn monkey!” Some time later,
he became acquainted with Bill Miller, a local Sasquatch researcher,
and the resident mentioned his odd experience. He had not considered
a Sasquatch connection and was not convinced that the “monkey”
he saw was a young Sasquatch. He insists that what he saw was
a monkey or some sort or a chimpanzee. He was adamant that it was
not a small person, bear, or any other any other animal known to be
in the Harrison area.
Source: Thomas Steenburg Sasquatch Incidents file, No. 10177.

Steenburg file#10174

I have had a number of incidents which have been reported to me since the publication of the book, ” Sasquatch In British Columbia” in 2012.

I  thought I would include some of them on this web site though they lack, for the most part, detailed interviews which were not obtained due mostly to the fact the witnesses in question had second thoughts about going forward with their stories for various and personal reasons. To respect their privacy, I will not give out any names. The stories have also been abbreviated in order to give you the reader a clear view on what was alleged to have occurred without going into to much repetitive detail. Enjoy.

2009/SP/00 – Port Douglas, Harrison Lake. Large Rocks Tossed
from 100 Feet: The night watchman at the Harrison Hydro work
camp, Port Douglas, experienced strange events in September 2009.
He heard whistles, screams and something crashing through the
trees; on a couple of occasions large rocks were tossed at him from
about 100 feet. They were tossed when his back was to the forest
and he estimated their weight to be about ten pounds each. They
landed about 20 to 30 feet from where he was standing. On the night
that he heard the whistles and screams, there were no bears in the
area all night. This was odd because he always sees one or two bears
on his rounds. During one of his patrols, he found large human-like
footprints in the sand by the lake. One of his duties is to keep bears
out of the camp, so he is well-aware of the tracks left by these animals.
He also noted that he knows about bear tracks “double tracking”
and the human-like prints he saw were definitely not of this
nature; there were no claws evident as with bear tracks. He mentioned
the incidents to local residents and one told him that the work
camp is on a route used by Sasquatch.
Source: Thomas Steenburg Sasquatch Incident file, No.10174

Jacko

Two posts ago I talked about taking John Kirk, (President of the BCSCC) to the site of the Classic Jacko capture.  Since then, I have taken two other colleagues there, Bill Reid, and another who wishes to remain anonymous, neither of them had ever been to the site.  As far as I know before myself, along with Bill Miller, and the late Barry Blount who made a trip to find it in 2009, no other researcher had ever tried to find it.  Chris Murphy did attempt to find it but went to the wrong location, and it took some time for myself to convince him of that fact.

One of my colleagues pointed out that until now,  no researcher had ever published a video from the the site, either. So we did just that.  I hope you find the story of Jacko from the place he was allegedly captured interesting – it is truly a Sasquatch Classic tale.

Thomas Steenburg

Jacko Site Revisit

Jacko capture site. Photographed in 2009. T. Steenburg
Jacko capture site. Photographed in 2009.
T. Steenburg

John Kirk, president of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, (try saying that 5 times fast), or BCSCC for short, contacted me to ask if I would mind taking him to the site of a Sasquatch Classic. The Jacko capture site is near Tunnel #4 , north of Yale, British Columbia.  For those of you reading this who have never heard of this incident, Jacko was the name given to a creature captured by rail way workers outside of Yale, BC in the year 1884.

John Kirk, along with Ms Winona Rouillard, came by my place at noon on August 4, 2016 and my duties as guide had commenced.  I just hoped I didn’t miss the ‘easy to pass-by if you blink’ turn off which gets you at least within 20 minutes walk from Tunnel Number 4.

Hottest time of the day it was and one has to wonder, thinking back to those times during the gold rush, what it must have been like for those folks wearing heavy wool clothing and long-john underwear , even in the heat of the summer?

 

John and Winona scan the cliff where Jacko was alleged to have been captured
John and Winona scan the cliff where Jacko was alleged to have been captured

I think John enjoyed finally seeing for himself the site of this ‘Sasquatch Classic ‘ tale.

Thomas Steenburg

Olympic Project

I was invited by Derek Randles, of the Olympic Project, to give a presentation at an annual get together in the beautiful north Olympic wilderness at a location near Lake Crescent, Washington State on the Victoria Day long weekend of 2016.

May 20th to May 22nd to be exact; a holiday long weekend in Canada but not in the U.S.

Dave Ellis, describes possible Sasquatch vocals
Dave Ellis, describes possible Sasquatch vocals

This group, unlike so many others out there, are not what I commonly refer to as “inmates running the asylum”  but a collection of serious-minded researchers whom combine their research methods in order to find the evidence needed to either confirm or, in some cases, disprove the existence of Bigfoot in the wilderness of Washington State.  Some researchers came from Oregon, as well as Canada, not to mention Texas, all there to share ideas and methods to collect and gather evidence.

Other presenters included Dave Ellis, who gave a very interesting presentation on recorded possible vocals.  Tom Baker gave a presentation on Washington State report statistics which I found very interesting to listen to.  Tom, and Derek Randles also, spoke earlier on what one should carry with them in the bush; which would be needed for everyday survival but keeping in mind: the lighter the better.

A female Texas researcher whom I will not name, as I think she asked me not to, gave a great talk around the camp fire on how one can create a portable, but professional, DNA collection kit.  That is something I plan to include in the future.   My presentation was on the general history of the Sasquatch in British Columbia which I think it was well received.

Later, I sat down with a gent named Wes Germer, who is the host of the radio program ‘Sasquatch Chronicles’ of which I have never in the past been a guest on.   What I had to say pissed a few people off, according to the comments  section on the program web page.  But too bad for them; I stand by my comments and to hell with those who choose to cling to wishful thinking rather than face reality.   You can listen with the link below.

I recommend this radio program to all who have an interest in this on going mystery as it mostly concentrates on eye witness testimonies and their alleged encounters with a Sasquatch.  The program lets the listener decide which encounters may be true.

Another interesting experiment was conducted by the group to test everybody on taking photos and videos quickly in the bush. Tom Baker filled in for the Sasquatch, popping out along the trail at certain points to be photographed and video taped.  Well, out of 30 people, including myself, only one woman took one good clear picture, and that was by accident rather than intent.  To all those skeptics who always say that with all the modern camera equipment, surely some clear footage or photo would have happened by now.

Well, this experiment proved to me that it is not as easy as it looks.  My mistake was choice of video camera.  My Air Pro video camera is great as long as the subject is right in front of you but objects in the bush which seemed close and clear with the naked eye, on the screen come out seemingly twice the distance.  In one case,  even further than that.

It was an eye opener.

Night outings and other day outings followed without any evidence being found.  But it was a great time with a group whom I have come to respect; and have put my mind at ease that the inmates taking over the asylum have not infiltrated every where. … YET!

Thomas Steenburg

 

Crandell Campground Incident

The short documentary, ‘The Crandell Campground Bigfoot Incident’ was produced about a year ago by the web site known as ‘Beyond Creepy‘. They did a pretty good job.  I still consider this incident one of the more interesting and detailed Sasquatch sighting reports I have personally investigated.  It certainly was the most interesting account from the 24 years of researching in the province of Alberta, Canada. I moved to the west coast of British Columbia for good in September of 2002. ‘Beyond Creepy’ has many such documentaries, on many topics of interest, and I do recommend to the reader to check the site out, that is if you don’t mind feeling a little “creep”-ed out afterwards.

Thomas Steenburg

Steenburg File# 10195

Here is a recent investigation which came to my attention just a couple of hours after it happened.  Both witnesses were interviewed close to the location over a cell phone they had in the car with them.

Thomas Steenburg

NEAR AVOLA

B.C. FILE # 10195
LOCATION: Highway 5, 26 km s south of Avola, British Columbia.
TIME: Approx 10: 19 am.
DATE:  August 12, 2015.
REPORT BY:  Thomas Steenburg

I received a phone call,  approx 12 noon on August 12, 2015 from a woman whom just had a possible sighting and was still in a quite an exited state.  She informed me that she and her mother have been driving home from BC to their homes in Alberta.  They were approaching the small community of Avola, BC on Highway 5, when the driver, (caller’s mother; main witness) called her attention to a figure ahead crossing the road, left to right; driver side to passenger side. The caller had been in the back seat feeding her 5 month old child, and looked forward in time to see the figure leave the road and disappear down a steep roadside embankment into the thick tress between the highway and the Thompson River not far away to the south (Highway runs east west at this point).

The ladies didn’t know what to say ;or what to do? The Driver at first thought it was a man whom jumped out of an approaching car on the road ahead of the figure walking across the highway (passing car in opposite lane). But only for a moment, as the reality of what she was looking at sunk in.  The banter between the two women at this point was one of great excitement. They did turn the car around and went back to the spot where the figure disappeared over the high embankment.  The driver did a search of the roadside and did find one possible track in the area. The other woman took a few cell phone photos of the track which she later sent to me via e-mail.

The two ladies then got back in the car and traveled as far as the pull out outside of Avola, BC where the driver phoned her husband whom informed them to contact myself.  It was while there I did a quick interview from both witnesses. The two ladies requested to remain anonymous, so their identities have been withheld from this written report.

First interview

What color was it?

Dark.  As I said at first I thought it had clothes on.

You thought it had clothes on?

Yeah. When I first noticed it, I was coming around the bend, there were a couple of cars coming toward us, between us and it, I thought someone was crossing the road, at first. But as I watched it cross the yellow line and down the bank, I knew by that point it wasn’t a man.

Did it cross the highway directly, or was it at an angle?

From what I could tell it was almost a straight line. Well, a bit of an angle.

Was it hairy?

No. Well yes. The only time I could really tell was when I passed by it so quickly.

When you passed the spot, could you still see it?

It hadn’t disappeared yet, I could just see the top of the head. I am trying to get a really good look because I am thinking: Was that a person?

Do you wear corrective lenses?

No, I don’t.

Do you need them?

No. Well just a little bit for reading.

Just reading glasses?

Yeah.

May I ask your age?

I just turned 52.

Oh, you’re just a young girl, I’m 54.

Why, thank you.

You and your daughter were traveling north, heading for home, which is Wadamun, Alberta? Not sure if I pronounced that right?

Yeah. You did good.

What was your first impression when you saw it?

Well, when I first saw the oncoming cars I thought they were pulled over because it appeared to me, us, someone walking across the road behind them.

You thought the oncoming cars were parked?

At first yes, but I quickly realized they were moving towards me. There was some distance right, but I soon knew they were moving towards me in the other lane. And behind them was, what I thought was, a human being walking across the highway.  And I said to my daughter, “What the heck is he doing walking out on to the highway for!” When I realized what it might be I said out loud to her, “Here comes your critter you might want to look!” She started to play close attention, she saw it as it reached the edge of the road and she too saw it step down, she also saw the dark color, the head and shoulders, but I will let her tell you her story.

Did it stand and walk upright?

Yes! It was always upright. That’s why I thought at first it was a person.

Did it ever go down on all fours?

Never.

How tall do you think it was?

I thought it was about 6 feet.

Did it appear heavy or light?

You know at first glimpse, not so heavy, or tall, but as I got closer to it it appeared bigger.

How long did you see it for?

How long what?

How long did you see it for?

10 to 20 seconds, if that long. You know traveling at 100 kms a hour, a distance of less than a quarter of a mile.

Was there a clear area between the roadside and the tree line?

A clearing, what do you mean?

It’s not a solid line of trees right up to the edge of the road?

Oh, yes it is. Oh, yes it is.  It is very treed. You can see the river through some of the areas. And spots where it seems animals have left trails on the ground. You know if you are a man and you drop off that cliff (referring to steep embankment where subject left the road), you could get pretty hurt.

Did it see you?

Um. No. Can’t really say for sure?

Could you tell if it was male or female?

No.

I assume you didn’t hear any noise?

No.

Did you smell anything before, during or after?

Yes.

What did you smell?

STEENBURG NOTE: Witness here gives a long answer about pleasant forest odors and the smell of cinnamon she detected long after the sighting while she was searching for footprints along the road side. I am of the opinion the odors she noticed had nothing to do with what she saw.

You did check for footprints?

Yes.

Did you stop right then and there or did you return?

Probably about. Oh, I don’t know?

Where you found the possible footprint was that located right where it crossed the road, or did you find that somewhere else?

Yes, that was right there. That’s where it went in.

There is a drop off there?

Yes.

Did you report this to any one?

My husband, then you. My husband first (she phoned her husband and it was he who told her to contact myself by phone).

There is a second witness in this case?

My daughter, yeah.

You reside in Wadamun, Alberta?

Yes, that’s right.

Your daughter resides in Edmonton, Alberta?

Yes.

You were on your way home from?

My daughter’s memorial.  And a girlfriend in Kamloops.

STEENBURG NOTE: The witness lost her other daughter recently.

So, it was a long hot day in the car?

Exactly.

Now the footprint photo you sent to me, was there just one or was there other tracks?

Well, I wanted to look more over (steep embankment), but my daughter wouldn’t let me. Because it was scary, and it was quite a drop down.  She wouldn’t let me go down there.

STEENBURG NOTE: This witness would give long drawn out answers to many questions which to my mind was distracting to the subject at hand. She contacted me from the road, and was in a very exited state. Something she herself pointed out a number of times. A few days later I did call her again at her home in Alberta, where we went over many of the details again. By this time she had calmed down quite a bit. I did interview the second witness during the original phone interview.

SECOND INTERVIEW

Hello (name with held), I was just talking to your mom, Can you tell me how all this was brought to your attention that something strange was going on?

I was just sitting in the back seat, my daughter was kind of being grumpy, so I came back here to feed her.   I was just feeding her and my mom and I just drove around this bend in the road and she said, “Whats going on here.” “ Why is that person crossing the road?” There’s wildlife here so I am looking at the side ditch and not looking ahead.  I was looking at the side ditch when she said, “What is that?” Then I looked out toward the front through the passenger side of the windshield, and this tall, tall dark figure just stepped over, off the highway, and he was kind of in the ditch, like basically where I took that picture (track photo), is where I saw him, like he was standing right there, and I was like, “Holy,” as I can see that he is super tall!  Stocky, and he didn’t have a neck. He was built, he was stocky.  And he just dropped down (steep embankment), and he was just gone.

How tall do you think the subject was?

Over 6 foot for sure.

Could you tell if it was hairy?

Yeah.  It had hair.

What color was it?

Black.

Were you close enough to see any detail concerning the face?

No.

How far away was it when you saw it?

When I saw it. Maybe 30 feet.

STEENBURG NOTE: I thought 30 feet was close enough to at least see some facial details so I discussed this with her for a bit, but her explanation of short time duration and profile angle of the subject seemed reasonable explanation in my opinion.

Was it still visible when you passed the spot?

No, he wasn’t visible. He had dropped down (other witness said she could still see the top of the subjects head?).

The photos of the possible footprint are actually yours?

Yes, they are mine.

Thank you for them by the way.

No problem. I hope you can make something out of them because I have a hard time seeing it when I look at them. (LAUGHS).

When your mother was searching the area did you notice any odor at all?

No. But I stayed in the car most of the time because of my daughter was with us and I wasn’t going to leave her alone in a car along the highway.

How old is your daughter?

She’s 5 months.

She was in the back in the baby seat?

Yes.

You were feeding her?

Yes.

When you saw the subject was it crossing the road left to right or right to left?

You mean to us or the cars coming the other way?

You.

It was on kind of an angle. (It did cross left to right)

An angle? Towards you or away from you?

Towards us. But I really still couldn’t see the face? I could see the outline of it, but not any details of it. It was just so dark colored.

Could you see any skin?

No. He was just so dark. That is what caught my attention really, because every time we come to BC, I get a little upset because we don’t see much wildlife anymore, so when my mom said something I looked up and she said, “What is that!”. That is what really caught my attention was his dark features, how dark he was, and the fact he didn’t have a neck, he had a big head. He was really stocky.

STEENBURG NOTE: When I talked to the first witness, (mother) again after a few days she too remarked on the fact that the subject did not seem to have a discernible neck.

Your mother mentioned that you stopped at the ‘Welcome to Avola’ pull out.  It was before you got there this happened?

Yes, it was before the pull out.

How long before the pull out?

10 or 15 minutes, if that.

Any man-made landmarks visible at the spot?

There was an ad sign maybe 5 minutes after the spot with the words ‘HANDCRAFTER ‘ something or other written on it? It was a big sign and it had Handcrafter written on it? There were other things written underneath it but that’s what I remember. A sign for a shop on the side of the highway type thing.

STEENBURG NOTE:  At this point she asked if I wanted them to drive back to the spot in question? This interview was over the phone while they were still traveling back to Alberta some 60 minutes after it happened. Both ladies were willing to go back but I told them not to interrupt their trip. They said it would be no interruption and they would call me back later that night.  She did. She informed me that the sighting location was 41 kms up Highway 5 from the town of Clearwater. I did a Google map check and found that Clearwater was 67.1 kms south of Avola.  So, I simply subtracted 41 kms from 67.1 kms and concluded that the sighting location was 26 kms south of Avola. Give or take.

The two ladies I am convinced did encounter something odd on Highway 5, 26 kms south of Avola, BC at 10 : 19 am, August 12, 2015.  The photo included with this report does show possible characteristics of a possible footprint but not distinctly so. Now a hoax being perpetrated on the two ladies can not be ruled out but the circumstances surrounding this incident at least in my opinion make a hoax seem very unlikely. The only other possibility at least in my mind is they did indeed witness a Sasquatch crossing the road.

Thomas Steenburg

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