I was asked by the organizers of this year’s BC Hunting Show at the Trade Ex Complex in Abbotsford to give a public talk on the history and continued investigation into the on-going Sasquatch mystery in British Columbia. I was asked to give one talk each day of the show which ran from March 2 through to the 5th, 2017.
It was a good show all around with displays and outdoor gear that any Sasquatch researcher or any active outdoor sportsman would appreciate. Especially if he or she is a resent lottery winner! Good lord, the prices of most of this stuff!!
I still had to do my night job so this was 4 days straight with little or no sleep but with the help of colleagues it went well, I think. Many of the public engaged in asking questions and telling stories about themselves or friends and relatives in the past who had reported encounters with the Sasquatch. Even the grandson of Albert Ostman stopped by to talk.
During the morning of January 28, 2017, I stopped by Rocko’s, a cafe in Mission BC, to meet and talk with a group of researchers who were heading out to Harrison Lake to do some looking around with a couple of visiting researchers from the USA.
John Kirk, president of the BCSCC, his wife Winona, a First Nation woman from Alberta, who has a good deal of tracking knowledge under her belt, Kennith Joholske , a visiting researcher from the state of Maryland, US and researcher David Winter from Washington State, US.
The group was planning to head up the Harrison Lake east shore Forest service road, waiting by the entrance gates of Sasquatch Provincial Park for researcher, Jason Zakrission, to catch up with them before proceeding. But for now over Rocko’s bad coffee and breakfast we spent a couple of hours comparing notes and theory concerning my favoured subject, the Sasquatch. I did think about joining the group but they already seemed to have a full car load. I wish I had.
Later the following night, I was contacted by John Kirk via email concerning something strange the group had encountered while waiting for Jason Zakrission at the Park gates:
Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.
I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.
I got a pretty good look at this thing from the thighs up and it was very broad. I did not know but Winona was saving at it, but in response to this, the creature raised it’s arm to chest height. It did not save, just raised it’s left arm.
It continue to rock from side to side as all four of us looked at it. After a while it stepped back and was gone. Two minutes later Jason arrived and was stunned by what we told him we had seen. Because he had good boots, he was able to climb up to just below the are where the figure had stood, but could go no further.
We kept observing the hillside for a further period and then made whooping sounds. In response we got two high pitched whoops back from just to the right and to the west of where the thing has been standing.
A few minutes later Jason made a loud roaring sound and there was a reply to the northeast of us. It was very different from the first two vocalizations and was very loud even though distant. We made more vocalizations, but there were no further responses.
With the onset of darkness we decided to go up the east side of Harrison Lake. After a few hours using a Flir we saw nothing further and Jason suggested returning to where we earlier by the gates.
We brought a bunch of thermal images and after a few minutes we got a hit where we had seen the figure earlier. It was very hot and we knew it was a living organism and appeared to have a pointed head. One of our people moved toward the slope and the hot spot stood up and ran up hill from right to left and we could see it was a Sasquatch. It was tall, but height estimates are impossible. It had two legs and it’s arms swung pretty far. It moved very fast, but you could see it bobbing up and down as it tanto the left and then uphill to the right. It went behind tree and was lost.
Not long after we got a hit of something moving low to the ground. Again we could see the pointed head and have video of this segment. The earlier running segment was not captured as Graz’s camera experienced battery failure. Very disappointing.
We also saw another strong heat signal and recorded it, but we believe this to have been a big rodent.
Nothing further was seen and we left the gates about 9.30 p.m.
We hope to return there next Saturday. I am getting some decent hiking boots so that I can climb up the hill to look at the are where it stood and height comparisons. If you want to join us that would be great. If not Winona would like to pop by you r place afterwards to visit and talk. Let me know if you’ll be available and interested.
I did interview John, Winona, and Kennith the following evening. David Winter had left for home in Washington and I would contact him a few days later. I did also talk with Jason Zakrisson, the 5th member of the group who was to meet with them at the park gates. And I have to say there were a few discrepancies in some the the accounts of what happened, and what was seen, and what was seen by whom and when? However nothing serious enough to make me believe that any of these witnesses, some of which have been colleagues and friends for years, were trying to pull off some sort of hoax of any kind. Far from it.
As you have read in John Kirk’s e-mail, at approx 4 pm two of the group, Kennith and Winona had expressed to John that they felt like they were being watched. Not uncommon. In fact, I think it is safe to say that anytime in the British Columbia wilderness you are always being watched by something. John then started scanning the hillside beside the road to the south east. It was then he spotted a figure which seemed about 150 to 200 hundred feet away, standing still, shifting a bit from side to side. John points this out to the others, both Winona and Kennith state they saw the figure, too. David Winter, who was getting a camera and a Flir device from his vehicle, was the last to look but, according to what I was told, did not see it.
Jason arrived at this time and was taken aback a bit by this excited group pointing up the hill and saying they may just have seen a Sasquatch? Now, according to the group, Jason just missed this encounter by a couple of minutes, arriving just as they lost site of the figure. But Jason told me he did indeed see a figure up there, that looked to him like the head and shoulders of something or someone? No fine detail visible to his eye but a figure of some kind moving up there. After a few minutes, Jason went up the hillside a bit to look around while the others watched from below, keeping there eyes pealed. But, according to what they told me, they did not see it again at this time.
Then, for reasons which really puzzle me, the group decided to leave the area and proceed with their original plan to proceed up the lake for a bit to look around. Perhaps this was done for the visiting American researchers who had never been here before? But I have to say, if I had been with them I would have waved and said,” pick me up on the way back because there is no way in hell I am going to leave this area now!!”
After some time up the lake, Jason suggested they return to the Park gates location in order to use the Flir device, as it was now dark. Once back, they employed the Flir device and did indeed pick up movement on the hillside. David Winter did try to use the Flir with his video camera but battery problems caused the video camera to die after only a few minutes. Though during this time, I was told he did pick up an image of something moving up the hill. David did send me a copy of the footage and there is indeed something moving through the tress but in my opinion, it could really be anything.
Here below is what David wrote when he sent me the footage:
Sorry I missed the call, Tom. We’ll have to do this by email for now, as I don’t have international calling on my phone plan. Give me a list of questions, and I’ll go from there. For now, I’ll attach a copy of the “squatch” I caught on thermal. It’s at a distance, after it ran away up the hill, when my recording camera died. The battery was replaced as quick as possible, but we didn’t see this tiny catch until I got home and went over the video with John, Winona and Kenny on Skype. It’s not much, but we believe it to be what made the tracks Winona found. Get back to me.
Graz aka David Winter.
I have since been told that there was a second Flir image taken that night which at the time of writing this article, I have still not seen.
The footage I have seen is open to interpretation, in my opinion. It could be anything; in fact, I think it is much closer to the road than whatever or whoever was seen earlier at 4 pm.
I went out with three of the witnesses to the location four days later, February 1st 2017, a Wednesday. We did some extensive searching of the area. John and I viewing from the witness vantage point with Winona standing where the subject was. She had to wave her arms in the air before I spotted her at all. I was amazed that any of the group saw anything. But I did notice at 4pm that at this time of year, the sunlight makes the right side of the tress illuminate to the eye while the left side of those same trees cast a dark shadow.
If the subject was caught in this light while moving from side to side, in my opinion, it would stand out to any person watching from the roadside below.
After we made these vantage point comparisons, myself and John Kirk went uphill to join Winona and Kennith on the spot the subject had been. Winona now put her hunting and tracking skills to work, and not far from the spot were the subject had been, she noticed the trail where something had walked away from the spot in question.
We watched as she tracked the the subject and pointed out what she thought were tracks. She was right, as far as i could tell, but they were nothing distinct, as far as i could see. I then asked her to explain her history and knowledge of tracking for the camera, which she did. After I asked to point out which direction she thought the subject was heading, she pointed downhill and it was there I came across the first cast-able print.
In my opinion, there was now evidence that at least something or someone was up on the hillside. However, did it mean that these possible prints were created on the day and time in question? No. Then again, it is possible that they were. The print in the above photo as well as the one before it were cast. The step between the two was 6 feet 7 inches; the length of the track was 15 inches. Not the best conditions to cast footprints but we decided to do so any way.
Casts recovered. T.Steenburg Photo
A few days after this onsite investigation, the worst snow fall of the winter occurred and a return trip later with other researchers found that the tracks did not survive the snowfall.
After having interviewed the witnesses and done follow up investigation at the site, I have come to the following conclusions:
1. This was not a hoax, therefore the witnesses are NOT lying.
2. There were discrepancies in some of the witness testimony when compared with each other. However, this is more due to each individual circumstances at the moment rather than any attempt at deception.
3. What was encountered at 4 pm is the crunch of this case rather than what happened later, at 9 pm (this could change after I see the second piece of footage).
It has been suggested that perhaps a bear standing up was seen? Based on the description, I can see how this can be possible, but we found no bear tracks afterwards.
In my opinion, the five witnesses either encountered a Sasquatch on January 28th, 2017 or they saw a man up on the hillside. It was definitely one or the other.
UPDATE: March 15th, 2017.
The following was posted by researcher David Winter on his face book page, after he had read this post concerning the incident of Jan 28th, 2017
David WinterNow that I’ve read the account on Tom’s website, I’ll have to remind the rest of the fellow experiencers of this situation, about something left out of the account on Tom’s website. Here is what is stated, then I’ll do a recount. “Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.
I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.” Now, there is something left out. We were milling around next to the gate, waiting for Jason. We heard a couple of growls, and got perked. I went to my Jeep and got out my “blobsquatch eliminator” infrared camera, and started playing with it. As I scanned from the gate, to my right, I saw a black blob between the trees. I yelled “BLACK BLOB” and got everyone’s attention, as I attemped to focus my infrared camera on it. Because of the very low light, and less sun for the infrared, I just couldn’t focus on the blob in the distance. The trees between me and the blob, caused even more problems as the camera wouldn’t let them go in the auto focus mode. I fought with that, going into manual mode, and the blob still wouldn’t focus. As I’m concentrating on this battle, John, Winona and Kenny are watching the blob as stated above. This is my account.
It appears that David actually did see the subject during the 4 pm encounter.
I was invited by Derek Randles, of the Olympic Project, to give a presentation at an annual get together in the beautiful north Olympic wilderness at a location near Lake Crescent, Washington State on the Victoria Day long weekend of 2016.
May 20th to May 22nd to be exact; a holiday long weekend in Canada but not in the U.S.
This group, unlike so many others out there, are not what I commonly refer to as “inmates running the asylum” but a collection of serious-minded researchers whom combine their research methods in order to find the evidence needed to either confirm or, in some cases, disprove the existence of Bigfoot in the wilderness of Washington State. Some researchers came from Oregon, as well as Canada, not to mention Texas, all there to share ideas and methods to collect and gather evidence.
Other presenters included Dave Ellis, who gave a very interesting presentation on recorded possible vocals. Tom Baker gave a presentation on Washington State report statistics which I found very interesting to listen to. Tom, and Derek Randles also, spoke earlier on what one should carry with them in the bush; which would be needed for everyday survival but keeping in mind: the lighter the better.
A female Texas researcher whom I will not name, as I think she asked me not to, gave a great talk around the camp fire on how one can create a portable, but professional, DNA collection kit. That is something I plan to include in the future. My presentation was on the general history of the Sasquatch in British Columbia which I think it was well received.
Later, I sat down with a gent named Wes Germer, who is the host of the radio program ‘Sasquatch Chronicles’ of which I have never in the past been a guest on. What I had to say pissed a few people off, according to the comments section on the program web page. But too bad for them; I stand by my comments and to hell with those who choose to cling to wishful thinking rather than face reality. You can listen with the link below.
I recommend this radio program to all who have an interest in this on going mystery as it mostly concentrates on eye witness testimonies and their alleged encounters with a Sasquatch. The program lets the listener decide which encounters may be true.
Another interesting experiment was conducted by the group to test everybody on taking photos and videos quickly in the bush. Tom Baker filled in for the Sasquatch, popping out along the trail at certain points to be photographed and video taped. Well, out of 30 people, including myself, only one woman took one good clear picture, and that was by accident rather than intent. To all those skeptics who always say that with all the modern camera equipment, surely some clear footage or photo would have happened by now.
Well, this experiment proved to me that it is not as easy as it looks. My mistake was choice of video camera. My Air Pro video camera is great as long as the subject is right in front of you but objects in the bush which seemed close and clear with the naked eye, on the screen come out seemingly twice the distance. In one case, even further than that.
It was an eye opener.
Night outings and other day outings followed without any evidence being found. But it was a great time with a group whom I have come to respect; and have put my mind at ease that the inmates taking over the asylum have not infiltrated every where. … YET!
Well, it sure has been a strange and slow Fall in the Sasquatch field, so far. Lack of reports, (credible sounding ones) at least…not much of interest seen on outings looking for evidence, etc, etc.
One has to wonder, why? I have noticed that this is normal for this time a year, which flies in the face of what most researchers assume is the most active time of year: Fall. Not so, according to my statistics.
I have had two odd reports recently.: one came to my attention when a man left a note on the windshield of my car with a small rock telling me that it was thrown by a Sasquatch which occurred up at Davies Lake, BC. He also left his name and phone number on the note. I did call, 3 times to be exact, but for one reason or another he has made no further attempt to contact and clarify the situation. So, I have to assume he no longer wishes to talk about it? One has to wonder as to why he left the note in the first place?
The second was from a man who just lives south of me in Washington State who stated that his wife had recently seen a Sasquatch on the family property. However, like the previous case, has not responded to messages for more information which I insist upon now before I investigate any further. This of course, could be a case of not clearing things with her before reporting the incident, after all many witnesses do not wish to be part of any investigation as their sighting is a personal matter they may not be ready to share with researchers. That is understandable, too. I have encountered this many times over the years.
So far, the Fall of 2015 is turning out to be the same as so many before. Slow and strange.
Here is a video of my opinion on the ongoing association between Les Stroud, and one Todd Standing.
It is already well known that I put little credibility in the activities of Mr Standing. However, I have a good deal of respect for the work of Mr Stroud. So, is it any wonder, the mind boggles at the fact Mr Stroud is still taken in by this man’s ongoing attention seeking antics. In my opinion, Mr Standing suffers from what I refer to as ‘Ivan Marks Syndrome’; more concerned with being famous and the center of attention than any concern over the possible existence of an unknown primate.
Well, one can only hope that Mr Stroud will see the light before too much damage is done.
This past Easter weekend, myself and some colleagues again decided to venture into the mountains to search for evidence for the existence of the Sasquatch.
Being a long weekend with the weather nice, and the fact I have encountered this situation more times in the past than I can count, I should have remembered beforehand that every Tom, Dick and Harry from the cities with campers or a tent head out into the accessible areas of our forests, to consume too much beer, scream and howl like morons, and just behave like spoiled idiots. And let’s not forget going home the last day leaving tons of trash behind.
Such was the case again during this Easter weekend of 2015. We had planned to return to an area of one of my better-known investigations to relive some of my recollections, and search the area once again for a fish stringer a Sasquatch was purported to have stolen from a campsite in 1986.
However, our plans had to change drastically when the the place was found to be over-flowing with campers so numerous, that every pullout within 5 kilometers seemed to have three or four tents and RVs, packed in like sardines.
We ended up traveling approximately 10 kilometers into the high-country before we had any room to search without running into the Bundy family, partying with Adams family. One group of face-panted weirdos, marching down a dirt road, reminded me of a group of hippies in company with a circus freak show; would you believe the head moron was leading the way blowing on a bullhorn which he’d wrapped around his upper torso?
Well, any Sasquatch, or any other wildlife, would have kept well hidden on such an occasion when their normally peaceful wilderness home gets invaded by the, ‘NIGHT OF THE LIVING BRAIN-DEAD’. The ironic thing is: these folks are just the type who, when they learn of our interest in the Sasquatch mystery, have the nerve to call us strange. Some people never grow up.
The one piece of advice I continually give to all who care to listen is this: Never go anywhere, at any time, for any reason, without your camera. The reason for this is obvious. If you are in the right place at the right time to see one of these creatures, the odds are that you will only have it in view for a few moments before it disappears into the shadow of the trees.
Nothing is, of course a sure thing, even if you have a camera sitting beside you while driving a forest service road – we are all human. And there is always that few seconds of hesitation as you witness something, which you will reflect on for the rest of your life.
It happened to me only once in 37 years of searching. It was at an extreme distance in a cut line, and by the time I brought my old British Army Land Rover to a halt, the figure had walked into the trees on the east side of the cut line. I still wonder if that figure was a Sasquatch or a large man dressed in dark clothing that day? But I will talk about my only possible sighting (so far) at another time.
Today, Go-Pro and other companies are selling continuous recording devices, dash Cams, some call them, which in my opinion, every researcher should look into. Having this type of device would perhaps take care of that brief few seconds of hesitation, which is human nature, when confronted with something unbelievable in front of our eyes.
Indeed, this is the most interesting question about this ongoing mystery; and the one fact which keeps the majority in our society skeptical to the existence of this creature. And a damn good point as well! However, from my point of view, one which can be logically explained.
So let me begin by answering the question, “Where are the bones?”
The bones are out there – they, as of yet, have not been found nor identified. There are a few stories of strange skeletal remains having been found, turned in to museums and other institutions but have either been lost, or misplaced, or been identified as common wildlife, or remains of missing people. One has only to look in the basement and archives of the British Columbia Museum to find much more stored away in boxes and cases than on display upstairs: material the staff no longer has information on; where it came from; or even when.
It would not surprise me at all if the day comes and the skeletal remains of a Sasquatch are displayed out on a table for the world to see. It won’t be a researcher or hunter, who found them in the bush, being responsible but some young student who stumbled upon them in some long-forgotten museum box or drawer someplace.
In all of my years searching the woods of Western Canada, I have yet to see the remains of a bear which had not been killed by people. I have never seen the remains of a cougar, or wolverine. I have seen the remains of deer and elk, but never in one piece. Nature has a very quick way of cleaning up the dead.
So the quick answer to this most puzzling question is simple: the bones are out there. We just have to find them.
Tomorrow afternoon, myself and three like-minded colleagues will once again head into the back country with the hope and dream of encountering a Sasquatch; or finding evidence of the creature’s presence.
God only knows how many trips looking for evidence this will be for me, as I lost count years ago. In all this time I may have had a possible, fleeting glimpse myself – only once. I have seen possible footprints on six occasions; collected hair samples from sighting locations which, so far, turned out to be from other wildlife.
We recently had rocks thrown at us, or at least we assume it was rocks since we never saw them, just heard them ripping through the greenery. Plus, the fact we never saw what or who was throwing them?
On another occasion, myself and Bill Miller were stumped at a tree line wondering what was the cause of a very unpleasant odor which assailed our nostrils. I went into the trees expecting to find something dead, but found nothing, and even more puzzling was after a time this unpleasant odor dissipated rather quickly, leaving us more perplexed? Was a Sasquatch responsible – who knows? The fact is that we never saw the cause. So, even though the possibility is there, we can’t just assume it to be so – far too much of that going on in this research.
But it’s the possibility that keeps my interest alive. So tomorrow, we try again. But I am well aware of the fact that the odds are overwhelming that this won’t be the last time.
Today, January 25, 2015, a group of us went out to an old stomping ground for me; a location in the lower mainland which none of my friends had been before. I myself had not been back to this area for over a year. New logging and hydro projects, cutting too many trees for my liking, were ongoing so this particular Forest Service Road (FSR) had been put on the back burner for a while. Also, being January, I did not really expect that we would be able to to get very high in elevation, as deep snow would prevent us going any further.
But with this being one of the mildest January’s in recent years, we were able to get much further than expected. I was pleased with some new course changes that had been made on the road in general. One rock strewn, steep climb which was always nerve-wracking at the best of times, is now bypassed.
It was a good day condition-wise; a bad day footprint-wise! Not only were there no Sasquatch tracks found, but no tracks of any kind were found in some of the best conditions here in a long time! Deep snow, about 12 kilometers in, stopped us in our tracks.
I look forward to returning to this FSR in the near future, to find how far the new bypass will go before reconnecting to the old road. If it goes to where I think it does, then this will be a good place for some of our future trips and expeditions.