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A Special Lady

A very dear lady to me lost her battle with cancer on May 30th, 2017.

I first met Vera after herself and another dear friend of mine, Christina, came to my home to tell me of a strange creature Vera had encountered just outside her home on the afternoon of September 21st,  2011.  She had come outside to see why her next door neighbors’ dogs were barking so much when she caught sight of something strange just behind the tree line which separates her home with the railway tracks.  The details of this encounter I have already published (Steenburg File# 10173).

After the two had stared at each other for about 30 seconds, which seemed much longer to Vera, the subject simply walked away from her down the rail line towards, what was locally known as, Crazy Creek.  She never saw it again.  She then contacted Christina and told her about what she saw, and it was Christina whom told her to talk to me; which we did the following evening.

At first Vera didn’t want any word of her account getting out and, in fact, when I went to investigate at the sight, she told the locals that I was there to look into a Mountain Lion she had seen.   At the time she was a foster mom and was afraid that if word got out that she had seen a possible Sasquatch that might be used against her.

But over the years as we got to know each other she relaxed a bit over the whole affair and took part when I asked in radio and television documentaries on the the subject and had even come along with me on few day expositions.  One such Radio show was titled ”Footsteps’ and aired in 2015.   Some of the TV programs were: ‘BC is Awesome’ which aired in 2016; ‘Finding Bigfoot’ when they filmed up on the Chehalis Reserve in 2015; and ‘Red Earth Uncovered’ which was filmed in the fall of 2016 and is due to air in 2018.  It is a program of First Nation perspective, and Vera being of First Nation birth herself, I felt was a natural choice for their Sasquatch episode.

Vera tells of her encounter at my home Sept 22, 2011
The spot where the Sasquatch was seen by Vera on Sept 21, 2011
Crew for TV program Red Earth Uncovered at the location of Vera’s encounter. Myself second from left, Vera is fourth from the left in the middle.

Vera lost her battle with Cancer on May 30, 2017 passing away at the Mission General Hospital with her family there with her.

I will miss her.

Thomas Steenburg

 

BC Hunting Show

I was  asked by the organizers of this year’s BC Hunting Show at the Trade Ex Complex in Abbotsford to give a public talk on the history and continued investigation into the on-going Sasquatch mystery in British Columbia.   I was asked to give one talk each day of the show which ran from March 2 through to the 5th, 2017.

Poster for the Sasquatch display booth during the show.

It was a good show all around with displays and outdoor gear that any Sasquatch researcher or any active outdoor sportsman would appreciate.  Especially if he or she is a resent lottery winner! Good lord, the prices of most of this stuff!!

I still had to do my night job so this was 4 days straight with little or no sleep but with the help of colleagues it went well, I think.   Many of the public engaged in asking questions and telling stories about themselves or friends and relatives in the past  who had reported encounters with the Sasquatch.  Even the grandson of Albert Ostman stopped by to talk.

Display booth just before doors were opened the first day.

Sasquatch Park Encounter???

During the morning of January 28, 2017, I stopped by Rocko’s, a cafe in Mission BC, to meet and talk with a group of researchers who were heading out to Harrison Lake to do some looking around with a couple of visiting researchers from the USA.

John Kirk, president of the BCSCC, his wife Winona, a First Nation woman from Alberta, who has a good deal of tracking knowledge under her belt, Kennith Joholske , a visiting researcher from the state of Maryland, US and researcher David Winter from Washington State, US.

The group was planning to head up the Harrison Lake east shore Forest service road, waiting by the entrance gates of Sasquatch Provincial Park for researcher, Jason Zakrission, to catch up with them before proceeding.  But for now over Rocko’s bad coffee and breakfast  we spent a couple of hours comparing notes and theory concerning my favoured subject, the Sasquatch.  I did think about joining the group but they already seemed to have a full car load. I wish I had.

Later the following  night, I was contacted by John Kirk via email concerning something strange the group had encountered while waiting for Jason Zakrission at the Park gates:

Thomas,

Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.

I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.

I got a pretty good look at this thing from the thighs up and it was very broad. I did not know but Winona was saving at it, but in response to this, the creature raised it’s arm to chest height. It did not save, just raised it’s left arm.

It continue to rock from side to side as all four of us looked at it. After a while it stepped back and was gone. Two minutes later Jason arrived and was stunned by what we told him we had seen. Because he had good boots, he was able to climb up to just below the are where the figure had stood, but could go no further.

We kept observing the hillside for a further period and then made whooping sounds. In response we got two high pitched whoops back from just to the right and to the west of where the thing has been standing.

A few minutes later Jason made a loud roaring sound and there was a reply to the northeast of us. It was very different from the first two vocalizations and was very loud even though distant. We made more vocalizations, but there were no further responses.

With the onset of darkness we decided to go up the east side of Harrison Lake. After a few hours using a Flir we saw nothing further and Jason suggested returning to where we earlier by the gates.

We brought a bunch of thermal images and after a few minutes we got a hit where we had seen the figure earlier. It was very hot and we knew it was a living organism and appeared to have a pointed head. One of our people moved toward the slope and the hot spot stood up and ran up hill from right to left and we could see it was a Sasquatch. It was tall, but height estimates are impossible. It had two legs and it’s arms swung pretty far. It moved very fast, but you could see it bobbing up and down as it tanto the left and then uphill to the right. It went behind tree and was lost.

Not long after we got a hit of something moving low to the ground. Again we could see the pointed head and have video of this segment. The earlier running segment was not captured as Graz’s camera experienced battery failure. Very disappointing.

We also saw another strong heat signal and recorded it, but we believe this to have been a big rodent.

Nothing further was seen and we left the gates about 9.30 p.m.

We hope to return there next Saturday. I am getting some decent hiking boots so that I can climb up the hill to look at the are where it stood and height comparisons. If you want to join us that would be great. If not Winona would like to pop by you r place afterwards to visit and talk. Let me know if you’ll be available and interested.

JK

I did interview John, Winona, and Kennith the following evening.  David Winter had left for home in Washington and I would contact him a few days later.  I did also talk with Jason Zakrisson, the 5th member of the group who was to meet with them at the park gates.  And I have to say there were a few discrepancies in some the the accounts of what happened, and what was seen, and what was seen by whom and when? However nothing serious enough to make me believe that any of these witnesses, some of which have been colleagues and friends for years, were trying to pull off some sort of hoax of any kind. Far from it.

As you have read in John Kirk’s e-mail, at approx 4 pm two of the group, Kennith and Winona had expressed to John that they felt like they were being watched. Not uncommon. In fact, I think it is safe to say that anytime in the British Columbia wilderness you are always being watched by something. John then started scanning the hillside beside the road to the south east. It was then he spotted a figure which seemed about 150 to 200 hundred feet away, standing still, shifting a bit from side to side. John points this out to the others, both Winona and Kennith state they saw the figure, too. David Winter, who was getting a camera and a Flir device from his vehicle, was the last to look but, according to what I was told, did not see it.

Jason arrived at this time and was taken aback a bit by this excited group pointing up the hill and saying they may just have seen a Sasquatch? Now, according to the group, Jason just missed this encounter by a couple of minutes, arriving just as they lost site of the figure.  But Jason told me he did indeed see a figure up there, that looked to him like the head and shoulders of something or someone?  No fine detail visible to his eye but a figure of some kind moving up there.  After a few minutes, Jason went up the hillside a bit to look around while the others watched from below, keeping there eyes pealed. But, according to what they told me, they did not see it again at this time.

Then, for reasons which really puzzle me, the group decided to leave the area and proceed with their original plan to proceed up the lake for a bit to look around.  Perhaps this was done for the visiting American researchers who had never been here before?  But I have to say, if I had been with them I would have waved and said,” pick me up on the way back because there is no way in hell I am going to leave this area now!!”

After some time up the lake, Jason suggested they return to the Park gates location in order to use the Flir device, as it was now dark.  Once back, they employed the Flir device and did indeed pick up movement on the hillside.  David Winter did try to use the Flir with his video camera but battery problems caused the video camera to die after only a few minutes.  Though during this time, I was told he did pick up an image of something moving up the hill.  David did send me a copy of the footage and there is indeed something moving through the tress but in my opinion, it could really be anything.

Here below is what David wrote when he sent me the footage:

Sorry I missed the call, Tom.  We’ll have to do this by email for now, as I don’t have international calling on my phone plan.  Give me a list of questions, and I’ll go from there.  For now, I’ll attach a copy of the “squatch” I caught on thermal.  It’s at a distance, after it ran away up the hill, when my recording camera died.  The battery was replaced as quick as possible, but we didn’t see this tiny catch until I got home and went over the video with John, Winona and Kenny on Skype.  It’s not much, but we believe it to be what made the tracks Winona found.  Get back to me. 

Graz aka David Winter. 

I have since been told that there was a second Flir image taken that night which at the time of writing this article, I have still not seen.

The footage I have seen is open to interpretation, in my opinion.  It could be anything; in fact, I think it is much closer to the road than whatever or whoever was seen earlier at 4 pm.

I went out with three of the witnesses to the location four days later, February 1st 2017, a Wednesday.  We did some extensive searching of the area. John and I viewing from the witness vantage point with Winona standing where the subject was.  She had to wave her arms in the air before I spotted her at all.  I was amazed that any of the group saw anything. But I did notice at 4pm that at this time of year, the sunlight makes the right side of the tress illuminate to the eye while the left side of those same trees cast a dark shadow.
If the subject was caught in this light while moving from side to side, in my opinion, it would stand out to any person watching from the roadside below.

After we made these vantage point comparisons, myself and John Kirk went uphill to join Winona and Kennith on the spot the subject had been.  Winona now put her hunting and tracking skills to work, and not far from the spot were the subject had been, she noticed the trail where something had walked away from the spot in question.

We watched as she tracked the the subject and pointed out what she thought were tracks. She was right, as far as i could tell, but they were nothing distinct, as far as i could see.  I then asked her to explain her history and knowledge of tracking for the camera, which she did.  After I asked to point out which direction she thought the subject was heading, she pointed downhill and it was there I came across the first cast-able print.

Best of the line, March 1st, 2017 T.Steenburg

In my opinion, there was now evidence that at least something or someone was up on the hillside.  However, did it mean that these possible prints were created on the day and time in question? No. Then again, it is possible that they were.  The print in the above photo as well as the one before it were cast.  The step between the two was 6 feet 7 inches; the length of the track was 15 inches.  Not the best conditions to cast footprints but we decided to do so any way.

After casting
J.Kirk and T.Steenburg measure step length. 6 feet, 7 inches

Casts recovered. T.Steenburg Photo

A few days after this onsite investigation, the worst snow fall of the winter occurred and a return trip later with other researchers found that the tracks did not survive the snowfall.

After having interviewed the witnesses and done follow up investigation at the site, I have come to the following conclusions:

1. This was not a hoax, therefore the witnesses are NOT lying.

2. There were discrepancies in some of the witness testimony when compared with each other.  However, this is more due to each individual circumstances at the moment rather than any attempt at deception.

3.  What was encountered at 4 pm is the crunch of this case rather than what happened later, at 9 pm (this could change after I see the second piece of footage).

It has been suggested that perhaps a bear standing up was seen?  Based on the description, I can see how this can be possible, but we found no bear tracks afterwards.

In my opinion, the five witnesses either encountered a Sasquatch on January 28th, 2017 or they saw a man up on  the hillside.   It was definitely one or the other.

Thomas Steenburg

UPDATE: March 15th, 2017.

The following was posted by researcher David Winter on his face book page, after he had read this post concerning the incident of Jan 28th, 2017

David Winter Now that I’ve read the account on Tom’s website, I’ll have to remind the rest of the fellow experiencers of this situation, about something left out of the account on Tom’s website. Here is what is stated, then I’ll do a recount. “Yesterday, at four p.m. the four of us were waiting for Jason at the locked gates of Sasquatch Provincial park. Winona and Kenny both commented on how they felt something was watching us.

I scanned the woods to the south and saw a pretty big figure standing between two trees about 100 or so feet away. it was swaying from side to side and had no neck with the head being set on the shoulders. As I got everyone’s attention to get them to look at it, Winona saw it move from left to right.” Now, there is something left out. We were milling around next to the gate, waiting for Jason. We heard a couple of growls, and got perked. I went to my Jeep and got out my “blobsquatch eliminator” infrared camera, and started playing with it. As I scanned from the gate, to my right, I saw a black blob between the trees. I yelled “BLACK BLOB” and got everyone’s attention, as I attemped to focus my infrared camera on it. Because of the very low light, and less sun for the infrared, I just couldn’t focus on the blob in the distance. The trees between me and the blob, caused even more problems as the camera wouldn’t let them go in the auto focus mode. I fought with that, going into manual mode, and the blob still wouldn’t focus. As I’m concentrating on this battle, John, Winona and Kenny are watching the blob as stated above. This is my account.

It appears that David actually did see the subject during the 4 pm encounter.
Thomas Steenburg

Steenburg File #10171

2011/07/03 – Near Chetwynd. Something Seen Along the
Railway Tracks: A railway line inspector for the Canadian National
Railway reported that he saw two unusual man-like creatures cross
the railway tracks at a distance of about 800 feet. He described them
as being hair covered (dark brown in color), massive upper body and
very long arms. He estimated the height of one individual at about 7
feet and the other about 6.5 feet. They were walking side-by-side
with the taller one a little ahead of the other. They crossed the tracks,
proceeded along a rocky creek bank and entered an area with willow
trees where they disappeared from sight. The inspector heard a high pitched
laugh-like sound from the willows. He went to the area
where the tracks had been crossed but did not find any footprints
there or in the long grass leading up to the rail line. Nevertheless, the
path they had taken could be seen in the grass. He also looked along
the creek bank; no prints were seen, but he sensed a slight unpleasant
odor.
The inspector was part of a crew of men, but the others had left
before the sighting. He later told his wife of the incident and she
informed Thomas Steenburg who followed up with the inspector.
Source: Thomas Steenburg Sasquatch Incidents file, No. 10171.

Red Earth Uncovered

On Monday, September 19, 2016, I was paid a visit by the host and film crew of the new documentary program, Red Earth Uncovered.  They filmed and asked questions on the subject of the Sasquatch for 4 hours.  We went into great detail.

They also talked to Sasquatch witness and researcher, Brad Trent, who came up to my place from across the river . Tomorrow, they plan to go into the field with Bill Miller up the east side of Harrison Lake for some more filming.   They will end their visit after talking to three witnesses from my files.

Film Crew from, 'Red Earth Uncovered'. Visits Thomas Steenburg at his home and study. Sept 19, 20116
Film Crew from, ‘Red Earth Uncovered’. Visits Thomas Steenburg at his home and study. Sept 19, 2016.

They also plan to interview the tribal elders on the Chehalis Reserve, where the name Sasquatch was first used and  introduced to the non-native community in British Columbia on April 1st, 1929.  This program looks at the world through the eyes of Canada’s First Nations. So it is only natural that they should devote an episode to the Sasquatch question.

This program will air sometime in 2018, I believe.

Thomas Steenburg

Jacko Site Revisit

Jacko capture site. Photographed in 2009. T. Steenburg
Jacko capture site. Photographed in 2009.
T. Steenburg

John Kirk, president of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, (try saying that 5 times fast), or BCSCC for short, contacted me to ask if I would mind taking him to the site of a Sasquatch Classic. The Jacko capture site is near Tunnel #4 , north of Yale, British Columbia.  For those of you reading this who have never heard of this incident, Jacko was the name given to a creature captured by rail way workers outside of Yale, BC in the year 1884.

John Kirk, along with Ms Winona Rouillard, came by my place at noon on August 4, 2016 and my duties as guide had commenced.  I just hoped I didn’t miss the ‘easy to pass-by if you blink’ turn off which gets you at least within 20 minutes walk from Tunnel Number 4.

Hottest time of the day it was and one has to wonder, thinking back to those times during the gold rush, what it must have been like for those folks wearing heavy wool clothing and long-john underwear , even in the heat of the summer?

 

John and Winona scan the cliff where Jacko was alleged to have been captured
John and Winona scan the cliff where Jacko was alleged to have been captured

I think John enjoyed finally seeing for himself the site of this ‘Sasquatch Classic ‘ tale.

Thomas Steenburg

File# 10196 Part 2

Here is the continuation into my investigation of a reported incident which occurred  Friday, January 22, 2016, at 4 a.m, Near McLeese Lake British Columbia.

Thomas Steenburg

 

SAMANTHA’S INTERVIEW

Hello Samantha?

Hi, how are you.

How are you?

I’m good, thank you.

Please state your full name?

Samantha Chrystal Godwin.

What is your mailing address?

Same as Yuri’s.

Same phone number as well?

Yes.

You saw it first, Correct?

Yeah.

What happened? What were the circumstances which lead to this?

Well we were on a tow. We were at the back of the truck, hooking. He,(Yuri) was on the drivers side and I was on the passenger side, and in the fog and the rain I seen this what seemed like a huge man, but harry, and a really light, greasy looking hair, I don’t know if that was because of the rain but.

Were you stopped at this point or were you moving?

I was still moving. I was so freaked out.

What I mean is were you stopped at the towing job, or were still moving down the road when this occurred?

The truck was stopped. I was walking into the tow truck.

So this occurred while you both were working on the broken down truck?

Yes.

The subject. Was it on the east side or the west side of the highway?

The west.

Was that the side with all the trees?

No. The river side.

OK. When you saw it it was on the west side of the highway?

Yes.

You told Yuri about it, and he didn’t believe you?

Well he didn’t believe me. He thought I was talking crazy. Lol. I did really believe myself.

How long did you see it for?

Um. 2 minutes or so, I was trying to get into the truck, quick, I was scared, like I didn’t believe what I was seeing. Then it was gone.

You got nervous and got into the truck?

Yeah.

Yuri didn’t notice that something was in fact making you nervous?

Well he heard me, but thought I was, you know, just saying stuff. He asked me what was wrong? I told him what I saw, and he thought I was talking crazy. Lol.

What was your first impression of it?

Um. Like what did it look like to me?

What did you think it was? Did you think it was a man? Did you think it was a bear? What did you think it was?

I thought it was a Sasquatch.

Sasquatch came to mind, right away?

Right away. Yes.

What was it doing?

Just walking down the highway. Just on the side of the road. Kind of like a monkey, his arms were swinging, kind of strait down his arms were going.

Describe that for me, like a monkey?

You kind of like how their arms go back and forth, behind it’s body. Then ahead of it’s body, then ahead again.

You mean both arms at the same time?

No opposite to each other, opposite times.

Did it stand and walk upright?

Upright.

Did you ever see it go down on all fours?

No. I didn’t see it do that, no.

Was it hairy?

Yeah. The whole thing was hairy. The arms the hair hung off it’s arms. The hair seemed longer on the arms.

The hair seemed longer on the arms?

Yeah, on the bicep part of the arms.

What color was it?

A tan brown. Like a light tan color.

How tall do you think it was?

Um. 8 feet tall? About 8 feet?

Did it seem heavy to you or light?

It seemed real muscular, not body builder just mass, real heavy. Big broad shoulders.

Was this a clear night or overcast?

It was a bit foggy.

How close was it to you when you saw it?

Um. It was about, I don’t know, one telephone pole to the next telephone pole. 50 meters?

Did you see any facial features?

No, just the back of him.

Did the arms seem longer than a mans or shorter than a mans?

Way longer.

How long did they come down the body?

Well not that much longer I guess, about half way down.

Could you tell if it was male or female?

I don’t know? I just figure male because it was big and hairy.

How long did you see it for?

Maybe a minute or two, somewhere around there.

I assume it did see you?

Yeah. T hats why it was heading the other way?

It was walking away from you?

Yeah.

When you saw it?

Yeah.

What was it’s reaction? Just walking away from you?

It was just walking away.

On the west side of the road?

Yes heading south.

Did you see it cross the road?

No I didn’t.

So when you got in the truck that is when you last saw it?

Yeah. But like we kept hearing that noise? Like a low scream of high pitch nes?

Did you actually see it make a noise?

I really didn’t think anything else of it after I hopped in the truck, and then we went back outside to finish the repair, and it was then we heard that noise. And Yuri said, “Ah theirs your Sasquatch”, and laughing at me. And then finally he.. well at that point he didn’t believe me.

Did you smell anything, before, during, or after?

No. Not at all.

Are there any other physical characteristics of this subject which stands out in your mind?

Just the hair on the arms and how shiny the hair was. The wast was small and the shoulders were huge,

Did you check for footprints?

Yuri went back a few days later, and said there were impressions in some of the snow patches but nothing good.

There was snow on the ground?

Yes. In places.

Did you report what you saw?

No I felt like a weirdo.

Just describe for me again what happened?

I was just walking on the road, to hop in the truck, and I just looked up, I just looked down the road for any on coming traffic, and I saw this big, hairy man looking, ape like thing walking down the road, and I got a little scared, I didn’t really know what I was seeing. I then put my head down and hoped into the truck, and I looked up again, and I didn’t see it, and I told Yuri what I saw. He was still hooking up the truck, I then heard the barking, oh, oh no, it was low and then high pitched, Yuri said, “That’s your Sasquatch”, and he laughed at me. Then I heard him say, come on, come on. And that when we told each other what we both saw. We both knew then we both saw the same thing.

Do you ware corrective lenses?

No.

Yuri was the only other witness?

Yes.

What do you think it was?

A Sasquatch.

You are convinced of that?

Yes.

When you saw it it was walking away?

Yeah. Walking away.

It was closer to the road than the tree line?

It was right on the road. Or right on the side of it.

STEENBURG HOTE: After my interview with Samantha I again talked to Yuri in order to get more detail of the tracks he thought he saw when he returned to the area a few days later. However do to mild temperatures and rain fall the tracks were little more than shapeless holes in batches of remaining snow.

A friend and college of mine, Sebastian Wang, who only lived about 40 kilometers up the road from this incident agreed to meet with Yuri in order to get some photographs of the exact spot where this happened. Yuri did talk to him and agreed to meet with him the following Saturday. However Sebastian informed me that Yuri was a no show. So I had to settle for a few photo’s of the general area.

Thomas Steenburg

Clearbrook Library Lecture

The Lecture given at the Clearbrook Library in Abbotsford on March 20th went off with out a problem.  About 30 persons attended. I think all found it interesting. It was suppose to be between 2 and 3 pm, but interest and questions took us nearly 40 minutes over time.  One fellow in the audience told of a possible sighting he had in the mid 1980s while driving just on the Washington side of the border with his father? Others, I think,  were just happy to hear someone talk about this subject with out sounding like a inmate running an asylum. The photo below show the setup just before the doors were opened. More chairs were needed.

Thomas Steenburg

SAMSUNG CAMERA PICTURES
SAMSUNG CAMERA PICTURES

Sighting Report 10196

I will present this report in two parts as it consists of the full testimonies of both witnesses involved.

Thomas Steenburg

 

map file 10196 A

 

Yuri and Samantha
B.C. FILE # 10196
LOCATION: Highway 97, Just north of McLeese Lake General Store
TIME: Approx 4:00 am
DATE: Friday, January 22, 2016.
REPORT BY: Thomas Steenburg

What follows is a transcript of two interviews with two witnesses whom reported encountering a possible Sasquatch at 4 am, Friday, January 22, 2016. This encounter accrued a few km north McLeese Lake, on Highway 97; at times a lonely stretch of road. The tow truck driver, Yuri Seterengen, and his girlfriend, Samantha Godwin, have not requested confidentiality concerning this case.
Hello, did you phone me around noon today?

Yeah I did. I saw you on TV there, and my girlfriend and myself had a sighting a few nights ago.

Do you have time right now to talk?

Sure you bet.

Could you state your full name please?

Yuri Seterengen.

Where are you residing, Yuri?

I am calling from Williams Lake B.C.

Williams Lake? Is that close to where this happened?

Yes it is. Its about, 45 minutes away.

STEENBURG NOTE : At this point in the interview we talked a bit as I was trying to pin point where on Highway 97, this actually occurred. Both witnesses reside in Williams Lake, British Columbia.

You were driving just north of McLeese Lake when this happened?

We were called out to tow a large truck. Broken down. I was driving one of those big rig tow trucks. I brought my girlfriend with me.

What’s her name?

Samantha Godwin.

You were on a call? You are a tow truck operator?

Yes. We were hooking up the Tow truck, like the driver of the truck had left as the box had been hooked up to another truck so he was long gone.

STEENBURG NOTE: Yuri started to rattle off the whole story at this point but there were a few more details I wanted to hear before getting into it.

Yuri, your present phone number is (withheld from written report)

Yes, it is.

What is your present mailing address?

(withheld from written report)

Where on Highway 97 did this occur?

Just outside of McLeese Lake.

What date did this take place?

On the 22nd, (January 2016).

22nd of this month?

Yes.

STEENBURG NOTE: This interview was done on Friday, January 29th, 2016. One week later.

Was it night or day?

Early morning hours. So night, around 4 am.

It was still dark out?

Oh, yes. It was still dark.

What happened?

Well, I was out. We were both out, we were hooking up the rig that was going to be towed. She told me saw a large, you know, a large human-like creature? I was joking with her; I said, “well, that would be a Sasquatch – ha, ha”.  You know, kinda not taking her seriously. I come up from the truck and I hear the weird sounds? (I hear someone talking to Yuri in the background).  It was walking right along the highway.  I was unfamiliar with the sounds so I jokingly say to her, “ maybe that was your Sasquatch”. (Yuri still had not seen the subject at this point) She actually got scared and went back in the tow truck. So, I finished hitching up the rig, I took about half an hour, and just as I was turning around I looked over my shoulder, I see this, Sasquatch? And, like this was so fast, that it just disappeared back into the shadows. It was kind of like it had an interest in what we were doing? You know the lights on the tow truck. She (Samantha) got back in the tow truck when we started hearing those sounds. I don’t know? She saw it when it was walking on the highway so she can describe it better? I only got to see it for a second but, she heard me yell when I saw it, over my shoulder, I kind of got brain fever, (Hesitated) a couple of seconds, then I thought to see if I could fined a footprint, and I got about 30 feet in front of the tow truck, thought better of it. But what I saw was identical to what she saw. Like what I saw was light brown hair, when it was in the light it appeared shinny? But when it hit the shadows it was gone? The way it moved, it was so fast. (Again I can hear a female voice in the back ground talking into his ear), I can let you speak with Samantha for a second as she saw more of it then I did.
If you don’t mind, I will speak with you first, then I will speck to her?

OK, yep.

Describe the area in which this took place?

High way 97, the lone highway up through the interior of BC. There are railway tracks there. On the other side, (West side), The Fraser river runs parallel to all that. Kind of sparse, not much wooded area, but on the other side of the tracks it is mountainous with lots of trees.

Did this happen on the east or west side of the highway?

This was on the east side of the highway.

The east side is where the trees are?

Yes. But when she saw it it was on the west side of the highway. And when I got a glimpse about a half hour latter, it was on the east. So it would have had to cross the highway. T hats what gets to me, it must have been intrigued by what we were doing? Like the orange truck lights flashing and stuff like that, I mean to be there the whole time like that ? That sounds really odd?

Was there snow on the ground?

Yeah there is snow. I actually went back to go try to find some tracks. Like I said it was raining that night, so I don’t know?

How much snow?

Well its been so warm here. Its been a warm winter, Raining so much there is not much left now. Just batches of snow, and most of what was here that night is now gone.

What distance would you estimate you were from the thing when you saw it?

When I saw it? It must have been about 30m or 40m. It was so brief, but I know what I saw. It just moved so fast.

What was your first impression?

I thought to myself, ‘No I didn’t just see that’, I didn’t know what to think. Then I yelled to her, (Samantha), I am still having a hard time, grasping it, Ha Ha.

What was it doing?

Well it was walking, like non saliently, she, (Samantha) could see how long the hair was, from it’s arms and everything, like when cattle is walking, like there was a structure to it

What was it doing when you saw it?

Pardon?

What was it doing when you saw it?

I just saw it for a fraction. I think what happened, it saw me turn around, and it wanted to get out of sight of me. I just saw the back of it, poof it disappeared right back into the shadows.

Did it stand and walk upright?

Yep it appeared to be upright. You could see it’s arms, you could see everything.

Steenburg Note: At this point I could here Samantha talking in the background saying that the subject was hairy. I told Yuri that I would talk to her about what she saw after I talked to him.

Hairy. She says it was real hairy.

I will talk to her about what she saw. Right now I will talk to you.

OK.

Did it ever go down on all fours?

Pardon?

Did it ever go down on all fours? What you saw, not what she saw?

I didn’t see it go down on all fours, I just saw it for a second. But it didn’t appear to be on all fours, but she was giving it for the shadows.

Did it seem to be hairy?

Yeah, light, light brown, like it was shinny? I couldn’t be leave how shinny the hair was. It was such a light brown color. Nothing like the pictures on line?

What color did you say it was?

Light, light Brown.

STEENBURG NOTE: It was lightly raining at the time of this incident so I wonder if it appeared shinny do to combination of a light brown color, wetness, and the tow truck area flood lights?

How tall would you estimate it was?

Oh I couldn’t even give you a estimation.

If that’s the case, then that’s what I wont to hear. How heavy do you think it was?

I just saw it from the back breafly. But I would guess 4 to 500 pounds.

Did you notice any facial features?

No I didn’t. No.

Any details of the arms?

No.

Could you tell if it was male or female?

No.

How long do you think you saw it for?

I saw it for maybe a second.

I assume it did see you?

That’s why, I think that it ran for shelter, because I was turning around.

That was my next question. What was it’s reaction?

Ha, ha, it bolted.

Did it make any noise?

Well I heard noises before, but I wrote those off.

What noise did you hear before?

It’s hard to describe. Not like a dog, more like an elk? I don’t know.

Did you have the impression that the noise was meant for you?

It must, I believe so now. I believe we had it’s attention, and it was making this noise at us, like it was really curious about what we were doing?

STEENBURG NOTE; The noise was heard by Yuri after Samantha had told him about what she had seen, but before he saw what he saw. In fact when the vocal was first heard he called out to her as she was now sitting in the cab of the tow truck. “I guess that might be your Sasquatch” with a laugh to himself.

Did you smell anything before, during or after?

No. Nothing like what I read about on line, you people describing a pungent Oder or anything like that. This looked at lest to me like, well groomed for lack of a better word.

Are there ay physical characteristics of the subject which stands out in your memory?

What do you mean?

Anything about it’s physical appearance which you remember but we haven’t talked about?

No. I didn’t get to see it for long enough, I just got a glimpse of it.

Did you check for footprints later?

I did. A couple of days later.

On the 23rd or the 24th?

We went back on the 26th.

STEENBURG NOTE: They did find impressions is some of the snow patches which remain on the ground but rain and warm temperatures had reduced them to the point of being useless. Also no photos were taken.

Did you report what you saw?

Well I didn’t know who to report this to?

Not to the R.C.M.P?

No. I didn’t, no.

How old are you Yuri?

36.

Do you ware corrective lenses?

No I don’t. I have 20/20 vision.

I take it your girlfriend, (Samantha) is the only other witness?

Yes.
Looking back, what do you think it was?

I honestly believe it was a Sasquatch.

Do you wish to remain confidential?

No. It does not matter to me. One or two people out there will believe us as they have seen things to. I am not to worried about what people think.

If you two have time I would like to talk with Samantha now?

 

 

PART 2 of this investigation will be posted in a few days.

Thomas Steenburg