Gathering Of The Minds

On August 1st, 2015 the B.C.S.C.C. had our annual get together at Green Point Recreation Park on the east side of Harrison Lake, fittingly inside Sasquatch Park . Good food and blunt talk was enjoyed all around as Sasquatch, as well as other topics of a cryptozoological-nature, were discussed.

Note the newspaper in John Kirk's hands...an article from an interior paper regarding a recent possible sighting.
Note the newspaper in John Kirk’s hands…an article from an interior paper regarding a recent possible sighting.

Several of our members went from the get together right out into the bush, in fact ,they came in from the bush in order to take part.  Sunny and hot, which was a nice change from the usual overcast and light rain we experienced on more than one occasion in the past.  Of course, the much anticipated cheese tray was the highlight of the hungry.   All there would agree on that point unless actually asked. So, that tradition will still go strong as I never ask.

bottom left: note Thomas' legendary cheese tray well enjoyed!
bottom left: note Thomas’ legendary cheese tray well enjoyed!

John Kirk, President of the BCSCC, filled us in the latest updates concerning lake and sea cryptids; always fascinating stuff.  And, of course, the Sasquatch dominated all of my time.  I also got an earful about not posting often enough on this blog, to which I could only bow my head in shame.  So, a good and informative time was had by all, without the unexpected hiccups of the last two years causing any problems with the venue.

Thomas Steenburg

Hanging Out

With the extreme heat seemingly behind us – well, until the next wave hits, anyway – we decided to kick back and have some growlies at one our favorite hangouts, of course the Sasquatch Inn!

Thomas Jul 25 2015

Thomas, deep in contemplation of what would be the best menu item for the evening – his choice? Their awesome pizza!

Talk isn’t always about Sasquatch… 🙂 Tonight’s was all about enjoying the much needed cool minus the mosquitoes.

Good food, good company, and yes, laughter all around!

Webgirl

Just a quick addition to this post. I was thinking about Sasquatch the whole time. Yes indeed, no question, never think of anything else, no way around it, Sasquatch on the brain.  Ladies would you date this man? LOL.

Thomas Steenburg

Another Day Of Searching

On July 5th, 2015 Brad Trent, Bill Miller and myself decided to do a Recce, up a reopened Forest Service Road (FSR) located on the east side of Harrison Lake, BC.

Having had the hottest and driest spring in many years, we decided to head out early to try and avoid the hottest part of the day, thinking the possibility on seeing wildlife may increase before the + 30 Celsius expected temperature hit with full energy-draining force.

We were right.  We encountered a nice black-tail deer, and either a large Black, or medium Grizzly bear, which dashed into the shadows in about 3 seconds.  Bear scat was all over the place and we encountered more than a few footprints, as well, including this one below:

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This clearly demonstrates how one can be fooled into thinking he is looking at a Sasquatch footprint, when in fact, he is looking at something totally non-Sasquatch related.

This footprint, in my opinion is  overlapping bear tracks as the animal came out of the bush and moved down an embankment onto the FSR.

This area, though, I believe we should return to a number of more times and really check it out.  It was gated and closed over the last few years due to logging equipment being kept there.  Now it seems to open to the public again.

Thomas Steenburg

Steenburg File # 10191

This is one of the more recent investigations. I have been debating whether or not to publish my investigations on this blog or not, since many witnesses have asked that their names remain confidential.  Not the case here; I hope you all find it interesting.

WEAVER LAKE SIGHTING

B.C. FILE# 10191
LOCATION: Weaver Lake, B.C. Near Harrison Lake West FSR
TIME: 10:30 AM
DATE: August 21, 2014
REPORT BY: Thomas Steenburg

I received a phone call in the evening of August 21, 2014, from a woman named Maria Muller (age 49) who reported that she might have seen a sasquatch at Weaver Lake, BC earlier that same day about 10:30 am.  Her boyfriend, Robert Bailey (age 51) was with her at the time of her sighting but did not actually see the subject himself due to the brief time it was in view; and the fact it had stepped out of sight before she brought his attention to it. However, he happened to taking some scenic photos with his cell phone’s camera at the same time and may have caught the subject in a shot with out realizing it.  By coincidence, I was only 5 minutes away when this encounter occurred near Morris Mountain.  But fate being what it is, I did not learn of it until later in the evening when she called my home.  When they checked the images on the cell phone when they got home (Surrey, BC) she spotted the figure and told Robert he had indeed captured an image of the figure they saw.  They emailed the picture to me.

My thoughts on the photo: is possible, but the figure is too distant to identify clearly.  I plan to visit the area tomorrow to see if any stationary object could account for the figure in the photo. To Maria Muller’s credit, she is not saying that it defiantly was a sasquatch.  She admits it might have been a man she saw or even someone dressed up to fool people.
A full interview with her now follows.
Thomas Steenburg

Would you please state your full name?

Maria Muller.

Do you wish to remain anonymous?

No. Why should I, LOL?

I always ask a witness that, as many do not wish it to be known that they have seen a Sasquatch, as I am sure you can understand why?

No, I am fine with it.  I know what I saw.

What is your occupation?

I’m a graphic artist.

Do you wear corrective lenses?

I do use reading glasses now as I am older, but my vision is good.

Were you wearing them at the time?

No.

How old are you?

49.

Where did this incident occur?

Weaver Lake.

This took place today? (Aug 21,2014)

10:30 am.

10:30 am this morning?

Right.

Tell me what happened.

We were at the water, we had gotten off the dock. We were parked right at the boat dock there.  Nobody was around, we had just gotten dressed, my boyfriend had started taking pictures with his cell phone, you know, before we left for memories.  There was nobody around.  No noise, no nothing, and off in the distance I could see somebody coming down the trail.  I saw the feet first, and then I saw the body, and it looked like a gorilla. And then it turned off to the left, and I said to my boyfriend as he was taking pictures, ”did you see it, did you get it with the camera, I just saw a sasquatch!” and he said, “no way”, and I said, “it looked just like a gorilla.”  He didn’t be leave me, and I said, “lets go over there and look,” and he said, “No, no, you’ve got Sasquatch on the brain, we are going home,” and so we went home (Surrey BC).  When we got home I told him to show me the pictures, I want to see if you got it on camera and sure enough, he did.

Describe the area where this took place?

OK, we were at the end of the dock, at the boat launch, not the end of the dock but the beginning of the dock, sorry.  Looking towards the area where the host resides, (site host for Weaver Lake, Mrs Andrea Colwell); the bridge is to the left and the beach area is to the right and the host is right behind that, can’t tell that from the picture though, and to the right of that is the beginning of the lake hiking trail, goes around the lake, we took a hike on the trail yesterday (August 20th); that is where we ended up yesterday, where I saw this thing.

What distance would you estimate you were from this thing when you saw it?

I don’t know.

Do you recall what color it appeared to be?
Yeah, it was all black.

What was your first impression?

I first saw the feet coming down the trail, from where we were, it was the only human-like movement I could see, so immediately it caught my eye.  I saw somebody walk down the trail, but when I saw the body and the head and it looked like a gorilla, I was shocked, and I said to my boy friend, “Did you see it, did you see it!?”.  “Are you getting it!?”  He didn’t know what I was talking about.  Then when I tried to tell him it was a Sasquatch and it looked like a gorilla, he just figured it was someone walking down the trail and I was seeing things.  But later, when we looked at the pictures, he saw that it was all black, and big, and it looked like it had a gorilla chest, and the fur or hair or what ever, there was no neck line, the head and shoulders were all one.  There was no neck.

What was it doing?

It was coming down the trail, I could see it between the two trees, as you can see in the picture, it was coming down the trail and then it just went left.  It was just walking.

Did it appear to be hairy, or could you tell?

I thought it was a gorilla, so I would say hairy.  It looked as though it saw us!

Did it stand and walk upright?

Yeah, it was walking like a man.

Did you ever see it go down on all fours?

No.

How tall would estimate it was?

I have no idea. Because I first saw the feet then I saw the upper body, but by then the feet were behind bushes and stuff.  So, when I saw the chest area and the head, something was in front of it, and when it turned left and walked away it went behind a tree and I couldn’t see it anymore.  So I couldn’t describe the whole length it.  But in the picture it looks like you can see one arm and the chest.

How much do you think it weighed?

I don’t know.  It was over too fast; there was nothing to compare it with, there was nothing beside it that I could of, you compare it to?

How long did you see it for?

I would say 3 seconds. That was it.

Did it stop at all or was it moving the whole time?

It was moving the whole time. But it was facing us, I know it saw us.

That was my next question, do you think it saw you?

Yeah, it saw us.

It’s reaction?

It turned left.  All of a sudden it was behind the trees and that was it.

You never saw it again?

No.

Did you notice any facial features?

It was too far away.  All it looked like to me was a gorilla walking like a man.

Could you tell if it was male or female?

No.

Did you notice anything about the arms or anything?

What I thought, well, what I thought was: sasquatch was suppose to be all furry?  But what I saw today, it looked like it had a bit of a bare patch like a gorilla has (chest area), so that’s weird, because I always thought the sasquatch was all fur?  This one appeared to have a bit of a shine on the chest, like I don’t know, a chest plate?

Did it make any noise?

No.

Did you smell anything during, before or after?

No. But at night we were hearing some strange noises.  We were joking, “maybe it’s the Samssquatch,” LOL.

Like Bubbles from ‘The Trailer Park Boys’?

Yeah, LOL.

Are there any other physical characteristics of the subject which stand out you recall?

It was just walking like a man.  It wasn’t hunched over, no nothing.  All it was, like, was a gorilla.

Did you check for footprints?

No.  I wanted him (Robert) to go over there, but he didn’t even believe I saw anything.  He thought I was seeing things.  But later, when he saw the picture he believed me a little bit more because it was all black and I said, “I know it looked like a gorilla”.

Did you report what you saw?

Yes, you.

Steenburg note: since this interview, Maria has posted about her encounter on a couple of web sites concerning the Sasquatch mystery.

Describe your general outdoor experience, do you guys camp a lot?

No, maybe twice a year. That’s about it.

There was only one other witness and he actually did not see it?

He took the picture but he didn’t see it.

That was your boyfriend, and his name is Robert Bailey?

Right, correct.

What do you think it was?

I think it was a Sasquatch.  Or a gorilla standing up.  Or it could have been someone playing a hoax, who knows?

Do you feel someone could have been playing a hoax?

I don’t know, we were the only ones there, though there was a dog somewhere barking at the time?

Steenburg note: follow-up investigation at the site, by my self and Brad Trent, concluded that there were still a very large number of other occupied sites that morning.   We determined this by checking with the camp host, Andrea Colwell, as the weekend crowd really had not started to arrive yet.  Also, Host Andrea Colwell, has a dog which does bark a lot, so this probably explains the dog barks she heard at the time.

Has any of your friends or family members made a report like this before?

No.

Have you every made a report like this at any other time to anyone else?

No.

As far as you are concerned, you ether saw a Sasquatch or someone pretending to be one?

Yes.

Robert actually did not see it, but he snapped the picture in question?

Correct.  Yes.

Steenburg note: this concluded the interview, other than general back and forth concerning the photo and other things.  I left early the next morning for Weaver Lake with Brad Trent to do some on-site investigation.

UPDATE, AUGUST 22, 2014.

Myself, along with Brad Trent, arrived at Weaver Lake Campground at approximately 10 am this morning.   After introducing ourselves to the camp host, Andria Colwell, it was moments only to locating both the photographer’s location and the location of the subject in question.  Andria has only two beach front campsites and knew what we were asking about right away, along with being fascinated why we were there.  Both camp sites, which were vacant 24 hours before when the sighting occurred, were now occupied and two large tents had been erected . Fortunately for us, their location did not interfere with our re-creation attempts.  Some of the occupants seemed to be amused by the reason for our being there.  Investigating the location of the subject was revealing.  What Maria refers to as the trail she saw the subject on during the short time it was in view, was in fact the main road through the campground, also the object which blocked the view of the subjects lower half, both to her eyes and the photo taken by Robert, was a combination of two large logs and a boulder about waist-high, which the subject in the photo is directly behind. She said that the subject turned to its left and walked out of sight, and she did not see it again. We noticed that at the location to the left, was the beginning of the hiking trail which goes around Weaver Lake, as well as a bear-proof garbage container, and a recycling container for bottles and cans.  Also, the camp host trailer site was only about 60 feet away from the location.  Finding the spot where Robert took the photo from, was easy, too. Brad went to the spot and took a photo of myself standing right behind the boulder and logs, which the subject had been behind.  After, we changed positions and repeated the process. This was all done at approximately 10:30 am, August 22, exactly 24 hours after the encounter. When these photos are examined, both Brad and myself appear to be just as large, if not larger, than the subject.  It seems there is a very good chance that Maria saw a person wearing dark cloths either going to the garbage bins or starting to hike the Lake Side Trail, and this is a case of simple mistaken identity?  Which is what Robert suggested to her when she first told him about it.  The camp host did do some rounds through the camp ground at that time in question.  However, she always wears a high-reflective yellow jacket, the same type flag men wear on the highway, at work sites.  When she stood at the spot, she stood out like a light bulb.  I would be prepared to declare this a case of mistaken identification outright, if it weren’t for the witnesses insistence that the subject she saw was so gorilla-like in appearance, though I must admit the figure in the photo does not cry out gorilla to me.  I can state that no stationary object accounts for the figure in the photograph.  So to conclude: there are two possibilities here; 1 – it was a Sasquatch and she is right in what she saw or 2 – it was a human and she misidentified what she saw? I lean to the latter due to our on site investigation, but a Sasquatch cannot be totally ruled out here.

Thomas Steenburg

Incredible Encounter or Great Imagination?

Most of this past long weekend (Victoria Day in Canada), I spent interviewing a man who had an incredible story to tell.  This gentleman who was brought to my attention by fellow researcher, Cliff Barackman, (cast member of TV’s Finding Bigfoot) made a written report to Cliff’s internet page, where he briefly went over what he said to have witnessed in early October 2007.  Cliff forward the report to me, as he thought I might be interested in following up on the matter.  He was right.

Now, the gentleman did not request to remain anonymous, however, for now I will keep his identity a secret until I have some more questions answered and I have had the opportunity to share what I since learned with Cliff.

The witness in this case had spent many hours traveling, and the matter was not helped much when he realized he had taken a wrong turn and was quite a few miles driving in the wrong direction.

It was approximately 2am in the morning of October 5th, 2007, and the witness had just driven through the small town of Hudson Hope, BC on Route # 29, heading south.   He was admittedly tired, and when he spotted a road side pullout  just before the bridge which crosses the Peace River, he pulled in and came to a stop just yards from a large sign showing a map of the local area.  Shutting off the engine, he used his jacket to cover himself and then went to sleep.

Hudson Hope
Courtesy of Google Maps

He was awakened by sounds which reminded him of small rain drops striking the car windshield.  He looked about in the darkness but saw nothing, nor were there any raindrops on the car windshield or hood.  He tried to go back to sleep again but those sounds kept reoccurring and also at one point, he felt his car shake a bit.

This time he spotted what he took to be a small black bear passing by his side of the car which looked up at him as it passed, walking on all fours toward the large map sign in front of him.  He thought it was a bear, but the head of the thing seemed wrong to him.  That’s when he spotted a second figure just ahead of the map sign, a little larger than the first one; only this one was standing and moving about upright.  He also noticed that the lower windshield and hood of his car was now covered in small sticks.

These two figures, whatever they were, seemed to be amusing themselves by throwing small sticks at the car and shaking the car at one point.  He was sure they were playing a game with him.   As he watched, the figures would move here and there, fading beyond his vision in the dark to return from another angle to throw more sticks. The larger of the two was seen by the witness to throw the sticks, while the smaller one, on all fours, was observed at one time to hand off some sticks to the upright one.  He did not see the smaller one actually throw any sticks. The witness was not afraid by what he saw but was just flabbergasted.

It was while looking around from inside the car, trying to spot the little pranksters again, that he saw behind him, walking down the along the northbound lanes, a third figure approaching.  This figure was much bigger; estimated to be at least 7 feet tall, walking with purpose, but not really fast, towards the pullout. The witness now felt intimidated.

He started the car engine, turned on the lights and started pulling back onto Route #29.  Looking back, the large figure slowed its approach but it didn’t really stop.  Just before the entrance to the bridge, he brought the car to a halt, got out to look back and to try and take a photo of the large one with his flip phone camera, which was all he had at the time.  But as the saying goes, it was not to be, as the combination of darkness and no flash, it was revealed later that his images showed nothing but blackness.

While the witness was standing outside the car trying to take the photos, he did observe the larger upright of the two small ones walk up to the 7-footer, however, he never saw the smaller all-four walker again.

The 7-footer at this point made a loud noise, witch he described as a loud HUFF,  in his direction and the witness felt this was a ‘Get away from here’  signal which he wasted no time complying with; jumping back in the car and heading across the bridge.

This is where the encounter ended.  It was much more detailed but I am just writing a short version here to save space.

We talked for a long while and I did not get the impression by his telling of the story that he was seeking attention, or trying to hoax me in any way.  Which, of course, could simply mean he is a very good yarn spinner, perhaps?

So much more I could write about this fascinating claim.  However, I do have red flags so I will be asking many more questions.

Thomas Steenburg

Mount Baker, Have a Good Feeling

Last week I took my first trip of the season to Mount Baker and what a wonderful and promising area it is, too.  I have heard about a few sighting reports from there over the past decade or two, but not many.

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Route 542 takes you through some of the most beautiful old growth forest still left in northern Washington State; prime Sasquatch, or Bigfoot as our American friends call them, country.

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Even if you have little or no interest in the on going Sasquatch question, It is a location you will never forget just from the beauty of the place.

I have lost count of the number of deer and other small animals I have seen running across the road.  So far, all of my trips there over the last two years have been during the day.  I plan to run it  in the early hours of the morning, hoping as always, to see a incredible creature in front of me, which so far in the last 37 years has not happened.  But I have a feeling about the place.

I always keep the  in the back of my mind that Baker is classed as an active volcano, often steaming.  Not dormant.  But I will play the odds that nothing will happen during one of my trips there.

 

Thomas Steenburg

Survivorman And Todd Standing Together Again!

Here is a video of my opinion on the ongoing association between Les Stroud, and one Todd Standing.

It is already well known that  I put little credibility in the activities of Mr Standing.  However, I have a good deal of respect for the work of Mr Stroud.  So, is it any wonder, the mind boggles at the fact Mr Stroud is still taken in by this man’s ongoing attention seeking antics.   In my  opinion, Mr Standing  suffers from what I refer to as ‘Ivan Marks Syndrome’; more concerned with being famous and the center of attention than any concern over the possible existence of an unknown primate.

Well, one can only hope that Mr Stroud will see the light before too much damage is done.

Thomas Steenburg

Sasquatch Research – An Investigation, Not A Religion

I am amazed at the irrational responses and comments sent into this Blog and on Youtube, concerning my posted videos, in which I talk of my own opinions and research since the late 1970s.

All of which simply confirm what I have been saying for a number of years; now that the Sasquatch research community more resembles an asylum which is being taken over by the inmates rather than serious researchers trying to solve an on-going and fascinating mystery.

So many comments are just the spouting of self-deluded individuals, whom are hiding behind the fact they can write what they want and remain anonymous.

I have no problem with debating with those who disagree with my views, as I am always willing to admit when I am wrong.  But stick to the the topic rather than going on a tirade of name-calling;  that only exposes the fact that the other person does not have a valid counter-argument, and is resorting to desperation.  So, from now on, any comment which has no validity, and denigrates to just personal insults will be deleted, at once, and repeated attempts will result in the banning of any further comments from those individuals.

Sasquatch research is an investigation, seeking an answer to a mystery.  It is not pushing a religious-type faith. This mystery will be solved by evidence and “sticking to the facts and never deviating from the facts”.  It will never be solved by those who draw conclusions based on personal faith and wishful thinking, with a heavy dose of self-delusion.

Thomas Steenburg